[Jprogramming] Search
Raul Miller
rauldmiller at gmail.com
Wed May 10 16:51:49 UTC 2023
Has anyone written that content for the J community?
Thanks,
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Raul
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 9:36 AM Richard Donovan <rsdonovan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Try searching for cobol lisp pl/1 c++ fortran assembly basic etc etc to see the sort of content that J users are missing out on!
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> I don't think that it's actually that simple.
>
> Aside from the difficulty of retrofitting a new name with high search
> engine selectivity (e.g. nuvoc) onto existing content so that we could
> find it with less effort, I think we're ignoring some of the other
> pressures out there, which interfere with finding content.
>
> (Also, of course, in a variety of ways, this is similar in character
> to some of the difficulties we have with "chat ai" mechanisms.)
>
> We imagine that other programming languages have it easier. However,
> in my experience, finding a full variety of relevant content has been
> becoming more and more difficult in all subject areas. (I could
> speculate on major issues, but that probably would belong in a chat
> forum thread.)
>
> This is not to say that search engines (and/or chat ais) are useless,
> but there's a variety of reasons for it to not be comprehensive.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 11:12 PM Richard Donovan <rsdonovan at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > What is really weird is that the extremely intelligent humans who invented this remarkable language didn’t foresee this problem in the first place!
> >
> > > On 9 May 2023, at 22:47, Hauke Rehr <hauke.rehr at uni-jena.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > You are right, C is an ususable language.
> > > I think noone uses it. You cannot search.
> > >
> > > This thread is silly.
> > > J is one of <size of alphabet> single letter names.
> > > It’s fine.
> > >
> > >> Am 09.05.23 um 22:56 schrieb Richard Donovan:
> > >> One of the most frustrating things about J is its name! For example, on Stack Exchange code review it seems impossible to search for any J articles, comments, code snippets etc. and I could suggest that rather than bother about whether to call the latest version J4, J904 etc which is trivial, you do something really useful such as change the name of the language to something sensible that can be searched upon. I know that in the past radical changes have been made to J eg changing x. and y. to x and y and I also know that a change of name would take a while to filter through but I do feel that eventually this change would have incredible benefits, similar to the recent long overdue introduction of sensible error messages which has been a real boon to me!
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