[Jprogramming] NuVoc page for debug

[Henry Rich]

Right.  The Foreigns page is just for reference.  We still need a page 
devoted to Debug and how to use it.

Henry rich

On 4/5/2022 1:59 PM, Ian Clark wrote:
> That's certainly the logical place for it, and it's the logical format for
> the Foreigns page of NuVoc.
>
> A beginner might still need a bit more guidance however...
>
> I've written a stub page: https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/Debug
> which I invite someone else to finish who knows *debug* better than I do.
>
> How about a simple worked example for how to debug an error in jconsole (or
> jqt used in a jconsoling way)...?
> How to do it with Run > Debug ⌘K is best described elsewhere, e.g. under
> [[Debug]].
>
> Ian Clark
>
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 00:33, Henry Rich <henryhrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have copied most of the information from
>> https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dx013.htm to
>> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/Foreigns#m13 with very little
>> added.
>>
>> Henry Rich
>>
>> On 4/3/2022 8:13 PM, Ian Clark wrote:
>>> IMHO debugging in J is not the happy reassuring experience it could be.
>> Any
>>> newbie who consults NuVoc looking for debug enlightenment is all set to
>>> spend a distressing two hours.
>>>
>>> Is that just my lack of familiarity with the geewhiz stuff that's there?
>>> Because I only resort to (13!:) and the debugger When All Else Fails.
>>>
>>> Then I go straight to
>> https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dx013.htm
>>> which for me is the most helpful page in the whole of J Help.
>>>
>>> It's a tall order to improve on it. If NuVoc is going to get an ancillary
>>> page on Debugging, it could do worse than link dx013 and leave it at
>> that.
>>> Actually I do have a small improvement on dx013 to offer. For my own use
>>> I've replaced every 13!:* reference with the corresponding stdlib cover
>>> verb. I attach the resulting doctored webpage as a .webarchive, hoping it
>>> won't get stripped off.
>>>
>>> If it does, then PM me for a copy.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 at 16:04, Raul Miller <rauldmiller at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have ported debug_verbs.htm over as Debug/Verbs, and included it in
>>>> the debug navigator.
>>>>
>>>> Someone (probably me) should go in and "merge" the two tables of
>>>> contents on the page. (In other words, add the __NOTOC__ keyword to
>>>> disable the wiki generated table after replicating its functionality
>>>> in the table with descriptive comments a short distance down on the
>>>> page.)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Raul
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 10:54 AM chris burke <cburke at jsoftware.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> I haven't found a replacement for
>>>>> https://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help602/user/debug_verbs.htm yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> This should be a new child page of
>> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Debug
>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 12:00 AM Raul Miller <rauldmiller at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> https://code.jsoftware.com/mediawiki/index.php/Guides/Covering_a_verb
>>>>>> seems useful, but I haven't found a replacement for
>>>>>> https://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help602/user/debug_verbs.htm yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Raul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 11:55 PM Henry Rich <henryhrich at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> That's pretty good.  It needs to be referred to from the NuVoc
>>>> ancillary
>>>>>>> pages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems to be about the graphical debugger.  Some users, as I
>>>>>>> understand, use debug commands from the keyboard.  Some documentation
>>>>>>> for them would be wolcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Henry Rich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/2/2022 10:24 PM, Raul Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>> What about https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Debug?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
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