[Jprogramming] Experiment with (+/ .*)

Henry Rich henryhrich at gmail.com
Mon May 24 03:00:10 UTC 2021


J8.05 is very out-of-date for +/ . * .  Since then I have rewritten the 
JE code a couple of times: the current version is pretty fast and has 
special code depending on matrix sizes.

If you are doing performance measurement you need to get an up-to-date 
J.  Many primitives and combinations run 5-10x faster than they did in 8.05.

Henry Rich

On 5/23/2021 10:32 PM, Imre Patyi wrote:
> Dear Programming in J,
>
> I made another test of numerical calculation in J,
> this time looking at multiplying two matrices using
> (+/ .*)  and here is what I have found.  It seems to
> me that J with (+/ .*) has acceptable speed only for
> matrices of order about 128 or below, after which order it
> quickly falls behind other standard numerical software such
> as python with numpy, and Octave.  I also wrote a naive C
> program for matrix multiplication; for orders 256, 1024,
> ..., 8192 J tracks as 2 to 4 faster than the naive C program
> (which does not do SIMD or mind caching much).
>
> Numpy and Octave are able to use multiple threads and/or cores
> just by calling ordinary 'matmul', and they are about 7 to
> 25 times as fast as J in my experiment.  As a primitive in J
> the command (+/ .*) could be just as fast as in any competent
> numerical program available in C for matrix multiplication.
> Even if you do not want multithreading in J, it seems to
> me that (+/ .*) has roughly 1/4 or 1/8 the speed of what should
> be possible for a single threaded program.  It seems especially
> troubling that it becomes just as slow as a plain vanilla
> naive C program for larger sizes of the matrices.  I am not sure
> why J does not seem to use BLAS or LAPACK for matrix multiplication.
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Imre Patyi
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Here is the summary of timings.
>
> n time, C time, J time, python time, Octave (time, J)/(time, C) (time,
> J)/(time, python) (time, J)/(time, Octave)
> 256 0.0780 0.0073 0.0010 0.0007 0.0936 7.3047 9.8987
> 512 0.2680 0.0671 0.0100 0.0050 0.2505 6.7137 13.4195
> 1024 1.8400 0.7293 0.0479 0.0380 0.3964 15.2255 19.1919
> 2048 14.0430 6.0432 0.2663 0.2851 0.4303 22.6938 21.1960
> 4096 109.8290 54.4634 2.2739 2.1620 0.4959 23.9513 25.1917
> 8192 874.8430 435.2600 17.1282 17.2197 0.4975 25.4120 25.2769
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> File: example-of-matmul.ijs
>
> f=: 3 : 0
> N=.y
> a=.2 o. ((4 : '(1234*x)+(5678*y)')"0 0)/~ (i.N)
> NB.smoutput(i.5){(i.5){a
> NB.smoutput''
> t=.timex'b=:a(+/ .*)a'
> NB.smoutput(i.5){(i.5){b
> NB.t;(60 60#:t)
> t
> )
>
> NB. Sample run.
> NB.   ,.f"0]2^>:i.13
> NB. 0.0135541
> NB.   3.5e_6
> NB.   2.9e_6
> NB.     4e_6
> NB.  1.77e_5
> NB. 0.0001052
> NB. 0.0008633
> NB. 0.0072972
> NB. 0.0671373
> NB. 0.729313
> NB.  6.04315
> NB.  54.4634
> NB.   435.26
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> File: example-with-numpy.py
>
> import numpy, time
> def f(n):
>      i=numpy.array(numpy.arange(n).reshape((1,n)))
>      a=numpy.cos(numpy.array(1234*i+5678*i.T))
>      #print(a.shape)
>      t0=time.time()
>      b=numpy.matmul(a,a)
>      return time.time()-t0
>
> for i in range(1,1+13):
>      print(f(2**i))
>
>
> r"""     Sample run.
> C:>py "example-with-numpy.py"
> 0.0020143985748291016
> 0.0
> 0.0
> 0.0
> 0.0
> 0.0009746551513671875
> 0.0
> 0.0009989738464355469
> 0.009999990463256836
> 0.04790067672729492
> 0.26629042625427246
> 2.273921251296997
> 17.128154277801514
> """
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> File:  The command I used in Octave.
>
>>> for n=2.^(1:13) ; i=(0:n-1) ; a=cos(1234*i'+5678*i) ; tic,b=a*a;toc, end
> Elapsed time is 1.3113e-05 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 1.90735e-05 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 1.38283e-05 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 1.3113e-05 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 2.09808e-05 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 4.88758e-05 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 0.000244141 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 0.00073719 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 0.00500298 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 0.0380011 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 0.285108 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 2.16196 seconds.
> Elapsed time is 17.2197 seconds.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> File: example-of-naive-matmul.c
>
> #include <stdlib.h>
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <math.h>
>
> int
> main(int argc, char **argv){
>
> int N ;
> if(argc==0){
> N=8192 ;
> } else {
> N=atoi(argv[1]) ;
> }
>
> double *a=(double*)calloc(N*N,sizeof(double));
> double *aT=(double*)calloc(N*N,sizeof(double));
> for(int i=0 ; i<N ; i++){
> for(int j =0 ; j<N ; j++){
> a[i+N*j]=aT[j+N*i]=cos(1234*i+5678*j) ;
> }
> }
>
> double *b=(double*)calloc(N*N,sizeof(double));
> for(int i=0 ; i<N ; i++){
> for(int j=0 ; j<N ; j++){
> double bij=0.0 ;
> for(int k=0 ; k<N ; k++){
> bij += aT[k+N*i]*a[k+N*j] ;
> }
> b[i+N*j]=bij ;
> }
> }
> printf("\n") ;
> /*
> for(int i=0 ; i<5 ; i++){
> for(int j=0 ; j<5 ; j++){
> printf("%f\t",a[i+N*j]) ;
> }
> printf("\n") ;
> }
> printf("\n") ;
> for(int i=0 ; i<5 ; i++){
> for(int j=0 ; j<5 ; j++){
> printf("%f\t",b[i+N*j]) ;
> }
> printf("\n") ;
> }
> */
> }
>
> /* Sample run.
> $ cc -o example-of-naive-matmul{,.c} -O3
> $ for i in {1..13}; do n=`echo 2^$i|bc`; echo $n ; time
> ./example-of-naive-matmul $n ; done
> 2
>
>
> real    0m0.038s
> user    0m0.015s
> sys     0m0.000s
> 4
>
>
> real    0m0.045s
> user    0m0.000s
> sys     0m0.030s
> 8
>
>
> real    0m0.047s
> user    0m0.030s
> sys     0m0.000s
> 16
>
>
> real    0m0.046s
> user    0m0.046s
> sys     0m0.015s
> 32
>
>
> real    0m0.051s
> user    0m0.015s
> sys     0m0.000s
> 64
>
>
> real    0m0.046s
> user    0m0.000s
> sys     0m0.030s
> 128
>
>
> real    0m0.045s
> user    0m0.000s
> sys     0m0.046s
> 256
>
>
> real    0m0.078s
> user    0m0.015s
> sys     0m0.030s
> 512
>
>
> real    0m0.268s
> user    0m0.218s
> sys     0m0.030s
> 1024
>
>
> real    0m1.840s
> user    0m1.811s
> sys     0m0.030s
> 2048
>
>
> real    0m14.043s
> user    0m13.937s
> sys     0m0.062s
> 4096
>
>
> real    1m49.829s
> user    1m49.578s
> sys     0m0.125s
> 8192
>
>
> real    14m34.843s
> user    14m33.046s
> sys     0m0.874s
>
> */
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I ran all of the above on a lower midrange laptop with Windows 10,
> i5, 8GB RAM, 2 cores, 4 threads; I used J805, Anaconda python 3.5,
> Octave 5.2.0.
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