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[Erling Hellenäs]

For me manuals have always been the first resort. When you read it you 
know more than anyone else about the language, because noone else read 
it :) The only exception is the J manual, which I find totally 
unreadable. /Erling


Den 2017-12-13 kl. 23:46, skrev Jose Mario Quintana:
>> I am surprised how many people have not read the reference manual -
>> not just in the J community but among technical people in general.
>>
>> I really don't know what to make of this.
> This, to me, is akin to wondering why many people, particularly young
> children, can communicate orally fairly well in a language even when they
> have not studied its grammar.
>
> On the one hand, I write J tacitly the same way I speak, almost always
> without consciously thinking about grammar rules.  On the other hand, I
> learned J, a long time ago, by reading the Dictionary (which is not a
> recommended way to learn it) and simultaneously experimenting with the
> interpreter (which is definitely recommended).
>
> I wish I had the time to read the Dictionary again in its entirety.  Yet, I
> still remember fondly the answer of a brilliant boss of mine when I
> suggested we should look at one particular reference manual:  "Are you
> kidding?  Manuals are the last resort!"
>
> :)
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Raul Miller <rauldmiller at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 3:46 AM, Erling Hellenäs
>> <erling at erlinghellenas.se> wrote:
>>> I doubt you can find reasonably accurate descriptions of this
>> functionality
>>> (these four helper programs) anywhere else.
>> This suggests to me that you have not read
>>
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dictb.htm
>> nor
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dicta.htm
>>
>> I am surprised how many people have not read the reference manual -
>> not just in the J community but among technical people in general.
>>
>> I really don't know what to make of this.
>>
>> --
>> Raul
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