[Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

[greg heil]

>Although Martins video work is great (as well as other efforts by, eg, Bob and Brian) i persist in thinking that it is the ease of getting a useful J in the hands of another which is the most important bottleneck.

>i got an introduction to the Iverson Notation 5 decades ago in an IBM dog and pony show. i even got my 15 min of fame by introducing APL to Mathematical Sociologists. But in those days setting up and using a language was easy: the user did no setup, that was all handled by IBM. We just dove in and worked on our own specialty, w/o having to be sysops too.

>~touchquery is one such effort and may become useful and good. To be able to refer someone in an elevator chat to a working instance of an industrial strength is, i think, key for adoption. The recipient can immediately explore and use the idea. Yes there need to be motivations, and they should be pointed to, but the key is the immediacy of productivity.

>There have been a few threads on ~Public-JHS-Servers, indeed jsoftware once had one, when JHS was introduced. Such could fulfill this need with only SysOp type efforts. If a base free level were provided, researchers and developers could become engaged - with no entry hurdle.

>No installations, with today's web it can get immediate access to any information and serve as a filter for any idea. Sysops can keep the installation up to date and portably accessible. Their is complexity in how it could be monetized, but that would be a nice problem to have.

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http://jsoftware.2058.n7.nabble.com/quot-Public-JHS-Servers-quot-td57870.html
http://u.tgu.ca/touchquery

greg
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from: greg heil gheil.j at gmail.com
to: Programming forum <programming at jsoftware.com>
date: 8 March 2014 13:25
subject: Re: [Jprogramming] J in 5 minutes

On 8 March 2014 12:00, Yike Lu <yikelu.home at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>TouchQuery looks really cool, but it's not a killer app, it's a great tool. I mean -- have you ever switched to a language because the IDE was awesome?

>i would likely turn that around and ask myself: what languages have i avoided because they were too hard to set up?

>i do think that ~touchquery is a great start. i even have now a short link to use on any touch first device!

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http://u.tgu.ca/touchquery

greg
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