[Jprogramming] J and APL symbols

[Peter B. Kessler]

I hope you can make this kind of change uniform, so that if I were debugging or tracing, etc., I saw my program in the same character set that I used to write my program.  Otherwise I can't use the powerful parallel processor that is my vision system to match things up.

			... peter

On 04/04/13 12:44, Greg Borota wrote:
> What I have in mind is just a display thing. Say you Select All and
> Copy/Paste the content of the editor window, you still get ASCII chars only.
>
> E.g: In GTK Term whenever you enter y as the verb argument it changes color
> and becomes italic (at least under Windows). What if you were to display
> the omega character instead? But behind the scenes you still hold y ASCII
> char indeed. Maybe those who already worked on GTK editor could add their
> feedback.
>
> And this could be an optional setting which one could turn on and off as
> wanted. Just a display setting.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Devon McCormick <devonmcc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure this is really such a good idea.  J is its own language and
>> mapping some J symbols to APL ones could be misleading.  Also, as much as I
>> like the look of APL, I'm happy not to deal with the continuing hiccups
>> caused by the character set.
>>
>> At last year's APL Moot, I showed my fellow mooters that I could cut and
>> paste Chinese characters into an emacs session with no apparent problem but
>> some of the APL characters from a website did not come over cleanly.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Greg Borota <borota at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it might be a quicker path to use ASCII behind the scenes still
>> but
>>> have some editor/term software (Visual Studio in this case) display words
>>> of interest as APL symbols. Like in MS Word where you type (c) and it's
>>> automatically displayed as Copyright Symbol ©.
>>>
>>> This could even be an Options settings where one could turn it on and
>> off.
>>> I think this is doable with reasonable effort with Visual Studio, but I
>> am
>>> thinking the idea could be used with Qt or GKT also. Unless I am missing
>>> something which I might see only after starting the actual implementation
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> I am very new to APL land, but I really liked the APL symbols. When I
>> first
>>> started with computers I was puzzled why math symbols were not used by C
>> (C
>>> was my first higher level language after Assembly)...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:41 PM, PMA <PeterArmstrong at aya.yale.edu>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What a wonderful idea!  I wish I had
>>>> the competence & time to pursue it.
>>>>
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> J. Patrick Harrington wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... My dream would be to have J expressible in APL-like
>>>>>
>>>>> characters (there isn't a one-to-one correspondance, though most
>> symbols
>>>>> could be carried over). Then J could have two
>>>>> forms, like hieroglyphic and demotic Egyptian: ASCII J for use
>>>>> in emails & everywhere, and APL-like J for use on your main
>>>>> machine: more compact and beautiful to look at. I really hope
>>>>> that such a project gets under way.
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Devon McCormick, CFA
>> ^me^ at acm.
>> org is my
>> preferred e-mail
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